1 00:07:08,294 --> 00:07:10,956 It seems too graphic and unemotional. 2 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:14,366 I would prefer those grieving people. 3 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:16,895 - For this double page here? 4 00:07:17,370 --> 00:07:18,803 Yes, for the big page. - Okay. 5 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:22,103 There's already a great deal of misery in it! 6 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:24,770 I like this sad figure walking through 7 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:27,079 the streets full of destruction... 8 00:07:27,580 --> 00:07:29,514 Fits perfect! 9 00:07:30,016 --> 00:07:33,577 And Goma! One million refugees! Thousands died 10 00:07:34,053 --> 00:07:36,578 and couldn't be buried in the volcanic 11 00:07:36,889 --> 00:07:39,084 soil. There were piles of corpses! 12 00:07:39,592 --> 00:07:42,026 Right! The piles of corpses... 13 00:07:43,496 --> 00:07:45,987 It'd be great! There are the piles! 14 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:48,093 Okay. 15 00:07:50,703 --> 00:07:52,398 That looks fantastic! 16 00:07:52,872 --> 00:07:55,238 You think we should use this one? - I'd enlarge it. 17 00:07:56,375 --> 00:08:00,675 This is also a terrific picture. 18 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:05,311 The corpses being dumped. - Maybe we should put it here. 19 00:08:06,819 --> 00:08:09,117 Have it enlarged. - Okay, fine. 20 00:08:35,581 --> 00:08:41,144 Can you tell that the corpses being dumped aren't in Africa? 21 00:08:41,654 --> 00:08:43,747 You don't have to see the corpses... 22 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:46,024 You can substitute them with this. 23 00:08:46,492 --> 00:08:49,154 Here you feel like you're being shown some scene in Africa. 24 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:53,156 It starts with Africa, and you think it's an African horror trip. 25 00:08:53,633 --> 00:08:55,498 But his idea is worldwide horror. 26 00:08:56,569 --> 00:08:59,663 It zooms in again... - Then there's the head... 27 00:09:00,172 --> 00:09:03,437 Then there's that poor guy. - Looks terrific. - Okay. 28 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:07,175 Exactly. Then we'll have a look at it. 29 00:10:12,945 --> 00:10:15,379 Comma... now it's shorter. 30 00:10:15,848 --> 00:10:17,907 After the Berlin Wall fell, wars changed. 31 00:10:18,384 --> 00:10:20,181 It was no longer nation against nation, 32 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:21,781 but people against people. 33 00:10:25,992 --> 00:10:30,258 Instead of high-tech weapons... rifles 34 00:10:30,696 --> 00:10:32,789 and machetes. - James Nachtwey, 35 00:10:33,099 --> 00:10:35,897 the world's most famous war photographer, 36 00:10:36,402 --> 00:10:38,461 has portrayed these new conflicts and 37 00:10:38,771 --> 00:10:41,001 victims in a way nobody else ever could. 38 00:12:53,205 --> 00:12:56,265 My son has arrived! 39 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:04,244 Oh, my son! Oh, my son! 40 00:13:06,185 --> 00:13:08,119 Oh, you! 41 00:25:27,392 --> 00:25:28,984 "Please, don't," I said. 42 00:25:29,327 --> 00:25:31,852 "My brother is deaf and speechless." 43 00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:35,322 But they threw him down from the truck, 44 00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:37,898 took his money and killed him. 45 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:43,637 They cut off my other brother's arm with a bread knife. 46 00:25:47,245 --> 00:25:50,180 They tore my uncle's son from his arms, 47 00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:52,143 but he wouldn't let go. 48 00:25:52,584 --> 00:25:59,148 So they shot him in the head, and the child fell on the ground. 49 00:26:01,726 --> 00:26:04,422 They gave me 2 minutes time, 50 00:26:04,863 --> 00:26:07,388 and they held an automatic weapon at my neck. 51 00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:08,699 They wanted money. 52 00:26:10,435 --> 00:26:12,096 Goodbye. 53 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,418 There are war photographers 54 00:30:24,722 --> 00:30:28,055 who are only able to endure the horror 55 00:30:28,526 --> 00:30:32,792 of what they've seen, experienced and escaped... 56 00:30:33,231 --> 00:30:34,823 like in Vietnam... 57 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:39,466 by going with the soldiers to the same brothels 58 00:30:39,904 --> 00:30:42,498 and bars and drinking the same whisky. 59 00:30:43,074 --> 00:30:46,043 Others have become cynical. 60 00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,979 Jim is a remarkably uncynical person, 61 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,407 which is all the more remarkable, 62 00:30:51,916 --> 00:30:55,317 because most people have seen a lot less misery and suffering. 63 00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,925 Lonely because... 64 00:31:06,130 --> 00:31:11,033 his experience sets him apart from his colleagues and others. 65 00:31:12,303 --> 00:31:14,464 He has become a different person 66 00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:16,865 as a result of those 25 years. 67 00:33:56,434 --> 00:33:59,096 While we talked about that horror 68 00:33:59,437 --> 00:34:02,304 in order to comprehend what we saw, 69 00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:04,867 the absolute inferno of people 70 00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:07,609 who were dead, dying and vomiting, 71 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:12,607 never-ending lines of people waiting outside the first-aid tents, 72 00:34:13,117 --> 00:34:15,381 Jim said almost nothing. 73 00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:17,151 Jim said hello. He talked 74 00:34:17,488 --> 00:34:19,388 about some organizational details, 75 00:34:19,824 --> 00:34:21,689 then he said, "I'm going to bed." 76 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,890 And while we needed beer to recover 77 00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:27,493 from what we'd seen that day, 78 00:34:27,999 --> 00:34:30,934 Jim had one or two glasses of water 79 00:34:31,436 --> 00:34:34,200 before going to bed. Then he got up early 80 00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:36,699 the next day to head out alone. 81 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,061 Good morning, Mister. - Good morning. 82 00:41:46,871 --> 00:41:50,363 For me, the early 80s were characterized 83 00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,574 by my move to New York. 84 00:41:53,644 --> 00:41:56,841 I was a photo editor for GEO. 85 00:41:57,314 --> 00:41:59,214 I'd worked for SPIEGEL before that, 86 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:00,711 and I had an opportunity 87 00:42:01,218 --> 00:42:04,483 to take over the photography department 88 00:42:04,755 --> 00:42:07,417 at the New York office of STERN. 89 00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:10,717 That was in 1982. 90 00:42:11,495 --> 00:42:15,295 It was the first time that Nachtwey 91 00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:20,829 came to STERN's office with a portfolio, 92 00:42:21,272 --> 00:42:25,971 and that led to a friendship, 93 00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:28,308 a love affair. 94 00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:37,682 Both of us had an idea 95 00:42:38,155 --> 00:42:42,091 what that New York situation was supposed to lead to. 96 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,291 Nachtwey wanted to make a name for himself. 97 00:42:46,597 --> 00:42:48,531 He was very bright... 98 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,060 and determined. His mind was focused 99 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,736 Like flight routes. 100 00:43:01,445 --> 00:43:03,037 No winding roads. 101 00:43:03,514 --> 00:43:09,180 There was one distinct, straight, narrow, stony path 102 00:43:10,054 --> 00:43:12,318 he had decided to take. 103 00:43:19,029 --> 00:43:22,226 Of course, at times I wished it was 104 00:43:22,733 --> 00:43:26,260 a warmer, closer, more intense relationship. 105 00:43:26,737 --> 00:43:31,299 But his work was of great importance. 106 00:43:33,177 --> 00:43:37,079 I'll do it. I'll do it with my pictures. 107 00:43:37,514 --> 00:43:41,177 I'll convince people with my pictures. 108 00:44:06,443 --> 00:44:08,775 Nachtwey came back from Nicaragua. 109 00:44:09,246 --> 00:44:12,613 He was relaxed and happy. 110 00:44:14,852 --> 00:44:19,653 He brought me a necklace made of shells. 111 00:44:20,958 --> 00:44:24,758 He put it around my neck, and I thought that was great. 112 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:41,402 I remember the first time I met him. 113 00:44:42,479 --> 00:44:46,074 His hair was parted, his jeans were creased, 114 00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:48,279 his shirt was immaculate. 115 00:44:48,752 --> 00:44:51,312 And amidst all that dust and chaos, 116 00:44:51,655 --> 00:44:54,215 stood this man I'd never seen before 117 00:44:54,725 --> 00:44:58,058 taking his pictures. He was in no hurry like the others. 118 00:44:58,362 --> 00:44:59,488 He was somehow calm, 119 00:45:00,831 --> 00:45:03,026 as suddenly South African photographer 120 00:45:03,367 --> 00:45:05,631 Ken Oosterbroek was killed next to him. 121 00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:20,113 Normally, two sorts of journalists are hit: 122 00:45:20,918 --> 00:45:24,115 the ones on their first assignment, 123 00:45:24,588 --> 00:45:27,785 and the ones who have been at it too long 124 00:45:28,125 --> 00:45:30,525 and think they're bulletproof. 125 00:45:31,161 --> 00:45:35,063 Jim is in danger of seeing himself as bulletproof, 126 00:45:35,566 --> 00:45:39,662 in danger of pushing his luck once too often. 127 00:45:42,139 --> 00:45:44,403 As someone who is quite reserved, 128 00:45:46,243 --> 00:45:46,971 he needs that kick, that adventure, 129 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,347 that flow of adrenalin and the fear of dying, 130 00:45:52,816 --> 00:45:54,545 in order to feel alive. 131 00:45:55,018 --> 00:45:59,682 Jim is at his best in the most extreme situation. 132 00:46:04,962 --> 00:46:09,399 That's it. He keeps on pushing those limits. 133 00:46:11,335 --> 00:46:12,495 Tough... 134 00:46:13,003 --> 00:46:14,265 Tough, tough, tough. 135 00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:23,878 It's also very difficult to talk to Nachtwey 136 00:46:24,314 --> 00:46:28,273 about the insane situations he has narrowly escaped. 137 00:46:28,952 --> 00:46:31,614 It's excruciating the way some photographers and journalists 138 00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:35,115 never stop talking about what they've experienced. 139 00:46:36,994 --> 00:46:37,961 With Nachtwey, however, 140 00:46:38,328 --> 00:46:40,125 you have to drag everything out of him. 141 00:46:41,899 --> 00:46:45,027 You really have to beg him, 142 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:48,131 and, even then, he tries to avoid making the impression 143 00:46:48,605 --> 00:46:51,631 that he's bragging, showing off. 144 00:47:01,418 --> 00:47:05,354 When he returned from an assignment, 145 00:47:05,689 --> 00:47:08,214 and I wanted to grab him 146 00:47:08,725 --> 00:47:11,387 and say, "Tell me about it. How was it?" 147 00:47:11,995 --> 00:47:14,429 No, first he had to develop the pictures 148 00:47:14,765 --> 00:47:16,027 and then look at them. 149 00:47:18,402 --> 00:47:21,064 I don't know where he kept everything, 150 00:47:21,405 --> 00:47:22,770 or where he keeps it, 151 00:47:23,607 --> 00:47:27,771 because the photo material alone, the pictures, 152 00:47:28,245 --> 00:47:33,273 are only a fraction of what he has seen, felt, smelled 153 00:47:33,717 --> 00:47:35,082 and heard. 154 00:47:37,621 --> 00:47:42,081 He has his own library of suffering in his head. 155 00:47:54,438 --> 00:47:59,102 What were you thinking of? Don't you want to talk about it? 156 01:04:04,407 --> 01:04:07,274 Allah is great! 157 01:09:48,050 --> 01:09:50,848 I feel that James Nachtwey's pictures 158 01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:54,122 possess the precision of a war surgeon. 159 01:09:55,524 --> 01:09:58,459 He hates to hear that. He doesn't want to be compared 160 01:09:58,928 --> 01:10:00,418 to a war surgeon, 161 01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:02,488 because everyone will then say, 162 01:10:02,831 --> 01:10:04,560 "Aha, a cold-hearted war surgeon." 163 01:10:30,092 --> 01:10:34,995 He is unrelentless when dealing with people and situations. 164 01:10:36,665 --> 01:10:39,759 This very old-fashioned, 165 01:10:40,269 --> 01:10:42,134 very unmodern characteristic 166 01:10:43,005 --> 01:10:46,133 makes him, at the same time, so untypical, so fascinating. 167 01:24:12,547 --> 01:24:16,916 Do I make a living from other people's suffering? 168 01:24:18,653 --> 01:24:21,588 Has their suffering and misery been... 169 01:24:23,191 --> 01:24:26,126 my ladder to success? 170 01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:30,125 Do I exploit people? 171 01:24:31,232 --> 01:24:35,100 Am I the bloodsucker? The vampire with the camera? 172 01:32:30,745 --> 01:32:32,713 Thank you.